Former journalist, ex-host of the The NewMusic, partner to Naomi Klein, son and grandson of towering [political](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Lewis_(Canadian_politician “His grandfather, David Lewis helped found the party Avi now leads”) figures talks to Paul Wells (who continues to provide exceptional Canadian journalism even as an independent).

Worth a watch if you are interested in politics, especially if you remember the 1990s, and maybe start with this part of the conversation where Avi Lewis begins talking about surveillance capitalism.